Suggestion: Interface for multiple manual shipping

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12 years 11 months ago #31014

Suggestion for a future release: I think a good interface for adding multiple manual shipping entries (multiple shipping zones, sub-zones and Shipping Methods) would reduce the amount of time to build many HikaShop shops by half or more! I would give it a very high priority for development.

I think the most efficient and familiar format for most people would be either a spreadsheet (based on a template you provide) that can be worked on in Open Office or Excel and uploaded, or an interface that works basically like a spreadsheet.

I just finished reading a thread from someone who had potentially 1600 shipping options to enter, and I have potentially 3600 entries I need to make for a fairly simple site with no shipping options whatsoever -- all options are pre-determined by weight and post code! However, there are 40 weight bands x 90 separate ranges of post codes. That's 3600. At 1 minute for each shipping method that would be 60 hours or 1.5 standard workweeks of non-stop mindless, repetitive work. :ohmy: All to input the information I already have on a fairly simple two-page spreadsheet.

If there is a faster way to do multiple entries, I'd love to hear about it. Otherwise, I definitely would suggest this be made a top development priority! As it is, it's a HUGE waste of time.

Thanks for your consideration, and for an otherwise awesome product! :cheer:


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12 years 11 months ago #31033

That won't be a top priority for now.
There are other areas to improve or which are missing in HikaShop and which are a lot more useful than that.
But that's not the only reason. When you have so many shipping methods to enter, the problem is not the interface, you should rather spend your week creating a shipping plugin (providing that you're a programmer) to interface with the web service of your shipping company to automatically retrieve the rates they're using, like the UPS, australia post or USPS plugins. That way, the day they decide to change all their rates, you won't spend a week rechanging all your shipping methods as all will be automatic.
You could even make money out of it or redistribute it to the community so that other users who don't know programming would be able to easily setup their shipping.
That suppose that your shipping company has a web service for that, which might not be the case. But if they don't, you should urge them to create one. Having a pricing table this complex is just insane to enter manually in any system, regardless of whether you spend 1 minute or 20 second per entry.

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12 years 11 months ago #31054

Hi Nicolas, I'm not a programmer, though sometimes I have to try... I use HikaShop precisely because it's where I have to do the least amount of programming.

I can't believe that my situation is uncommon: My client is working with a small specialist delivery company (refrigerated delivery). It operates only in Spain. I will contact them about the possibility of a web interface, but my sense is that this company is fairly low-tech.

If they are able to offer a web interface, then I would need to hire a programmer to do the job, not a cost I was planning on! The budget for this project is very tight. But perhaps it's the only real solution.

Do you have tech specs for the job that I could use to get a quote? And if you could PM me a referral of a name or two of someone who has programmed one of the existing shipping plug-ins for HikaShop, it would be appreciated.


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12 years 11 months ago #31078

In most cases, either the merchant use a big shipping company like UPS, Fedex, DHL or USPS and there is or could be a shipping plugin for it to retrieve the rates automatically, or the rates are easy to enter (with la poste in france for example there are only 6 zones for the whole world and around 20 different classes of weight so that's about a hundred shipping methods max and less if you just ship in france or in europe).

What you could do is to import a CSV of the shipping methods you need via phpmyadmin. You could probably make such CSV in a day. That's apparently something you already thought about on that thread:
www.hikashop.com/en/support/forum/4-how-...nd-methods-fast.html

We do have a developer documentation for shipping plugins on that page:
www.hikashop.com/en/support/documentatio...r-documentation.html

You could contact Jeff here: www.hikashop.com/support/forum/2-general...art=20&lang=en#21838
He made the USPS plugin for HikaShop.
The other shipping plugins in HikaShop were made by us but we don't have the resources at the moment to develop other ones (and we would do a fedex or dhl plugin if that was the case, so that more users could benefit from it).

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11 years 10 months ago #85158

I was pretty surprised there is no way to do this easily. So far it's my biggest complaint about Hikashop. I'm facing having to build thousands as well, but maybe there is a way to edit the shipping table and then import it.

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11 years 10 months ago #85263

You can export/import the hikashop_shipping table via phpmyadmin using CSV files. So that's possible. It's just that the format is not so nice to work with as all the restrictions are serialized into the shipping_params column. But it's still possible.

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11 years 10 months ago #85358

Yes, I think I can easily see how to do this. If only the manual shipping plugin allowed multiple zip code ranges. That one change would allow me to only require about 600 shipping rules instead of 40,000.

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