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13 years 3 days ago #30950

Finally I've decided to try Hika for e-commerce solution, but found that HikaShop basic is too basic, compared to rest extensions. There is no way to show New Products, Best Sells, Recommended, Promotions.... Nothing except 3 modules including Cart, content and another one comes with HikaShop, tried to see what contains my business version and it contains the same pack of modules.

Any plans to release such modules ?

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13 years 3 days ago #30962

Hi,

You can already display new products, recommended products, most viewed, etc with all the versions of HikaShop.
That can all be done with the HikaShop module and all the options available in it.
You can see two examples on that page of our demo website:
www.demo.hikashop.com/index.php?option=c...ow&Itemid=71&lang=en
www.hikashop.com/en/support/documentatio...op-modules-form.html

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13 years 2 days ago #30978

Hika Content ?
Also, how I can set to show instead of
4.00 BGN each
to display
4.00 лв. (without each)

(Offtopic)
Some of the language files contains double "" within, thanks to another transifex bug, verify your files with Localise 1.7.1.0 or later. The component shows ! near the file containing even one error. Clicking on path/localization/xx-XX/component.ini - open text editor with marking the wrong lines with red color, so u can easily find and fix them.

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13 years 2 days ago #30984

You can find more information on creating a new hikashop module on that tutorial:
www.hikashop.com/en/support/documentatio...html#products_module

For the price display, you can change the currency display by editing the currency via the menu System->Currency. For the "each" word, you can override your translation file as explained there:
www.hikashop.com/en/download/languages.html#modify

So you mean four consecutive double quotes ? Which translation files ? I checked the translation files on our servers for two consecutive double quotes and didn't find such problem (the translation keys without translations have two consecutive double quotes but that's normal). If you could point out what you found, that would be great.

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13 years 2 days ago #30988

Maybe in all, just discovered it on one my translation, downloaded from Transifex
on one line there was something like this
COM_DEFINE_SOMETHING=""Something goes here"
This only line was preventing my client to see Hika in Bulgarian :)
IF users have no problems so far, I'm the only lucky "winner" then :)

Latest Products is somehow ok (doesn't work outside of the product category), eg. If I have menu linked to Kunena, Latest Products (Hika Content remains empty) but rest ?
No Featured (core 1.7 function), no Promotions (selected by the admin number of specific products)
Categories - shows no back link...
/ (Root)
Category 1
-SubCat 1
-SubCat 2
--Subcat 1
Category 2

When Main category is clicked, show no subs with the option show all direct subcategories, also no back link, just empty module.
With all subcategories - same. Ok, I'll make custom menu, it's not big deal for this case, but even the paid version lacks of dozen modules... this should be fixed, not in one module

1. Latest Products (per category, per extension)
2. Popular Products (same)
3. Random Product (same)
4. Featured Products (same)
5. My Orders/History (registered users quick show/access)
6. Compared Products + core option to compare them (which one is best from Laptop A and Laptop C)
7. My Ordered Items (history of recently bought products) - in case the user is a dealer
8. Price Filters (eg. select products within the price range 200-1000 usd)
9. User Address Book (for the registered users, easy way to change between one and another shipping/billing address and for editing)
10. Custom Payment and Delivery Methods with ability to add custom code.
11. Import from worst shops this days - JoomShopping and VirtueMart.

Compared to what I've saw in Tomato Cart (standalone OS e-commerce solution) and PrestaShop (all e-commerce extensions for Joomla! even united into one, can't cover TC or Presta). VM 1.1.9 have all this modules, but have and tons of bugs and security issues. JoomShopping 3.2.7 have some of this modules, unfortunately have serious problems with the build in SEO for 1.7. Tienda is a good e-commerce extension, but for nearly dead core (1.5). ...and the options are between Hika and jFusion + osCommerce. Very big deal.

Just my 2 cents, so far till today, I've used (if can be called using) Hika only for translation...

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13 years 2 days ago #31005

Let's go through your list:

0. There is no back button on listings. We integrate with the joomla breadcrumb module so the users should be able to go back easily on parent categories. Also, they can use the "previous" button of their browser...We didn't think that it would make sense to have one. If you absolutely want a back button, you can always edit the view via the menu Display->Views and add one line of code to add your back button:
<button onclick="history.go(-1);">Back</button>

1. You can do that. The fact that you don't see the products in the module when you go on another page than a category listing page is because you have the "content synchronization" option of your module activated so it synchs on the current category to display the products and otherwise display the latest products of the category you set in the "parent category" option of your module (so you apparently have no products in that category which is why you don't see any products on other pages).

2. You can do a popular products module. Just create a "popular" category and add it to the products you want in it. Then, use that category as parent category of your hikashop module. It's the same if you want to have a promotion module or a featured module.
You can also do a random products module. You just need to set appropriately the hikashop options of your hikashop module instance once you created one via the joomla module manager.
So you can have 10 modules on your website displaying all that at the same time with just that hikashop module.
You actually have the same latitude for categories as that hikashop module can also display categories. And there is even more to it in the Business edition as you can apply effects to it and achieve carousels of latest products, random products, categories, etc:
www.demo.hikashop.com/index.php?option=c...5&Itemid=103&lang=en

5. You can access the orders listing via a menu item if you create one of the type hikashop orders listing in the joomla menu manager.

6. That will be in next release of HikaShop next month.

7. Good idea.

8. You can do that in the Business edition with the filter system:
www.hikashop.com/en/support/documentatio...-filter-listing.html

9. The user address listing can be accessed like the orders listing of point 5.

10. You can create payment plugins which will be installable via the joomla installer. Just copy an existing plugin and change the code in it. We also have some documentation on that here:
www.hikashop.com/en/support/documentatio...r-documentation.html
We welcome anyone who wants to build payment/shipping plugins for HikaShop

11. There is already an import from VirtueMart in the menu Products->Import.

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13 years 1 day ago #31042

Regarding 0 - joomla.cmsbg.info/downloads (Left column) - this is categories module, specially when u have shop with over 50 main categories and with up to 5 sub-levels of subcategories. Breadcrumbs is not the same. And the back button is the same, Tree is best, clicking main category - shows first level of subs belongs to main cat 1, clicking lvl 2 subcategory shows sub-level belong to current and so on.

Regarding 1 - One module for everything ? Well, this can be useful for some, but is not user friendly, I'm watching how my client react on this. Better is 10 or more modules, but every one dedicated to do something. Otherwise, when site is build once, by most contracts it's have to be maintained by the owner, if there is no special clause creator to take part of maintenance. Technical maintenance is another point, but organization of the modules (at the beginning he/she cant have popular products, bcz shop is just starting) and products. Creating, Editing, Deleting Products, adding/updating shipping(couriers) methods etc.

With enabled/disabled - content synchronization, situation is the same (probably bugged host, already noticed some problems with JoomShopping there, but JShopping is bugged by default :) ).

Just create.... what about if shop have (let see how much have my current shop... over 15,000 products, am I have to check every hour which product have most hits/sells and to copy it to that category ? This option is very bad released in Hika. (done by a custom script - jarcomputers.com/l_en/?m=0 ) - still some of the content is in bg-BG, but bcz is buggy and there is no replacement option among the e-commerce extensions compatible with any of the J! versions. And sublevels leads to manufactures instead of classes, bcz "put a blonde behind computer and watch the action"

If you have 300 Laptops and 200 Printers (let say 2 categories only), why the people looking at Laptops category should see the popular printers too ? They want to see Popular Laptops as whole, Popular (after selection) by manufacturer) per sub-category (low, medium, high class). Same is for recommended. Why someone browsing Laptops/Low Level by Acer (as manufacturer) will not be able to see the recommended by the shop based on different ratings model(s).

Just this idea for releasing one module for everything is not the best option for e-commerce. Popular can be based on several options: Rate (Votes), Hits, Sells. Per category, per manufacturer, per customer reviews, like JED is made.

Recommended can be set by several options:
Equal price <-> quality, does fit for that or this tasks etc.

Latest (almost same as popular) (and those tons of copied modules on 1.7 causes slow speed) products: Per Category, Per Manufacturer.

Promotions - selected by the owner specific number of products, per main page, category.

Menu Link option to show Popular/Latest/Promoted products instead of categories.

Cookie based module - for showing, what's the user watched this session (even guests).

Search per SKU, Title, Short, Long description, Price

Price tracker can be good option, at least for dealers.

Also there is no option, one product to be removed, but link to it to remains with simple note - No Price, or No Sells. To avoid generation of 404 pages, when one or another product/series is removed from the market. Obsolete example - jarcomputers.com/p_VCA1536MINNO3DGTX580 , it's not on the market anymore, don't belong to any categories, search ignores it. But if u search trough google for it, u can found it.

Regarding 5 - Menu is ok, but module with image + short description pop-up on links is better. Something like the vision of Slick RSS, but for the orders.

Regarding 11 - Did I said only VM ? Since Hika Shop is multi-platform (version) compatible, there should be import at least from the same multi-version apps, specially useless one. VM is ok, JShopping ?

Didn't saw and option for auto-sync with European Central Bank about the exchange rates. (in case the shop uses several currency)

Will wait and see what 1.5.5 will brings, but for now Joomla! don't have e-commerce solution, no matter paid or free apps.

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13 years 1 day ago #31064

The HikaShop module allows for a 2 levels categories listing (like the one on the demo website). Also, if you activate the content syncrhonization on it, you can have it display the sub categories of the current category and thus even be able to use it for more levels (although it's not a tree view, which is not something we wanted to do for now).

I still think that one module is a good idea as it gives the possibility to do things which would require a lot of work to maintain otherwise. I also see your point about the fact that it's more complicated to understand as you need to setup them up and I think that we'll solve that easily by inserting pre generated instances of the module during the install. That will give the advantage of both systems.
Most of the modules you're talking about as possible with the HikaShop module. The ones that aren't like the cookie based module, or a vote based (we'll first need to make a voting system in HikaShop for that) listing of the products are good ideas that we already have on our todo list. Please remember that HikaShop is only 1 year old and our first target were small shops who don't need to have their users to search for the products. But that's something we're working on since a few months, and we'll continue to add more functions for bigger shops.

We'll add an order module in the todo list as it's another good idea.

Indeed, there is no import from Joomshopping. Joomshopping is quite recent so there hasn't been requests so far from an import function from it. The VirtueMart import was added a few months back. As I said, we're moving forward, but Rome wasn't built in one day.

The auto sync of tax rates with the ECB is only in our commercial editions.

Thank you for your input. Hearing feedback from users help us move forward.

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13 years 15 hours ago #31107

although it's not a tree view, which is not something we wanted to do for now

This is doable, I'll found someone to make it, but wondering why not your team, instead to be released 3rd party paid addons for something that can come with the shop.

Rest modules too, plus (maybe) hack for 1.5.4 to includes the Ajaxified votting

Joomshopping is older then HikaShop, it's a Mambo extension, ported trough years, like Community Builder.
Just in last few months become a bit more popular, bcz there wasn't much options on JED, Hika was banned, rest crap too choose from is JoomShopping, Tienda and VirtueMart, what you will pick if Hika wasn't made ? for sure not Tienda and VM for dieing core.

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13 years 12 hours ago #31117

Well, we can do it, like any other plugin/module/feature request. The problem on our end is time.
We're working on other things and don't have much time left on our schedule for custom works.
However, we welcome any initiative, for the community, or commercial. We want to move on that end next year and provide a market for HikaShop so that users and developers can use it. I'm sure it will be beneficial to everyone.

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