Categories On 2 Levels - 3rd Level Not Showing

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11 years 7 months ago #99182

I am using the "Categories on 2 levels" module. I have the following categories:

- Accessories > Jewellry > Charms

When I click on Accessories I see the "Jewellry" category but when I click on Jewellry it doesn't show the "Charms" category. Why is that category not showing please? I REALLY need it to show and I don't see how to change it in the module.

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11 years 7 months ago #99292

Hi,

By default it's on 2 categories, so it don't display the third level.

You have to edit the view "category / listing_list" to make the changes.
It require php knowledge.

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11 years 7 months ago #99421

Thanks Xavier.

The client really needs this so is it something that if I'm given the code I can just add it? And if not, what would be the cost to get you guys to add it.

I also think that this should not have a limited amount of categories as most sites allow you to filter down to many levels.

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11 years 7 months ago #99568

Hi,

There is no limit on the number of categories or the number of levels of categories in HikaShop.
The only thing that is limited is the categories accordion display effect of the categories listing module which can only handle 2 levels of categories being display in it. But even with it you will be able to access the third level of categories on the main content area of the page.
If you don't see the third level of categories on the main content area of the page once you click on a category of the second level, if means that something is not configured properly in your module's options.
Also, if you want a categories listing module displayed in accordion supporting more than 2 levels, you can potentially use that module:
extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extensi...hop-extensions/21225

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11 years 7 months ago #99649

I see another level when I change the setting but it does not flow with how I have it set-up. It's hard to explain but I assume I would be able to now click on the 2nd level and it will display the categories in that level the same way it does with the 1st level (as per attached). Instead I get all the categories in one long list...

So, what do I need to change in the module to get it to display as per the attached? I have also attached my current settings.

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11 years 7 months ago #99672

I'm sorry but I'm not following you.


As I already said, The module in hikaShop cannot display 3 levels of categories at the same time like that.

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11 years 7 months ago #99684

If you don't see the third level of categories on the main content area of the page once you click on a category of the second level, if means that something is not configured properly in your module's options.


I guess I'm the one who misunderstood then. I thought the comment above meant that I would be able to see a third level.

Sorry about that.

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11 years 7 months ago #101177

I promise I won't bother you about this again...

I prefer not to use another NON Hikashop addon. I just want to see if there's something I can do to get this to work. So, would you mind letting me know what files would need changes made to get this working, eg: the mySQL, database, views, etc... or just to the module code here: /modules/mod_hikashop_filter/

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11 years 6 months ago #101374

Hi,

Nicolas said that the module can display only 2 levels, but can be used to display the third level of categories.
Ex:
Product category
> Cat
>> SubCat
>>> SubSubCat

You can use it to display the SubCat and SubSubCat which are levels 2 and 3.

To display 3 categories at one time:

You have to edit the view "category / listing_list" to make the changes.
It require php knowledge.

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11 years 6 months ago #101469

Appreciate it. Thank you!!

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9 years 10 months ago #188077

AhhhhhhhhGHH! This is so very frustrating. So you guys know how to fix it using php but believe that if we the users take advantage of the unlimited category levels available in Hikashop that two levels in the navigation should be plenty. Guys, its not.

Basic law of interface design is consistancy. Don't expect a person to swap behaviours half way through. Don't put barriers in the sales process. Make it easy to get to what they want. For the last 20 years people have been trained to trust primary navigation.

Please listen when we say we do not want to have to trouble shoot 3rd party solutions for the shop menu. Dang. I have a shop where navigating by the displayed categories is working against us because of a complex set of consumer/product/brand issues and I really need to make it stupendously simple for people to see and explore our offers.

Can you please make the potential of the navigation match the potential of the categories and this issue goes away.

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9 years 10 months ago #188081

Thank you for your feedback.

There are several reasons why it's like that:
- The accordion system that we use and which is by default in Joomla doesn't support more than 2 levels. So it would require integrating a new accordion system just for that. And it's not just two lines of code. It's will require plenty of development, even more so as we want to keep backward compatibility.
- If you need more than 2 levels, you're probably loading more than a hundred categories in your module. That's a lot of data and if you have more than a few hundred of categories, the page process could either stop in the middle because of the restrictions of resources on your server, or the pages could take a lot of time to display because of all that data to be loaded. I wouldn't recommend to have more than 2 levels of categories on a normal shop.
- Even Amazon displays only two levels of categories in their category main navigation and then their categories sub navigation modules also display with a two levels display. And they always optimize their website for maximum profitability so I wouldn't be worried for the user experience since the most mainstream online shop also does like that.
- There are alternatives available for HikaShop for that which work great if you really want to do it and the only cost a few bucks. If you have a big shop, I'm sure that you have the budget for that.
- If you really want to have it without any 3rd party extension, I invite you to modify the code, which is completely open source and free to use. Maybe MyWorld already has the code modification necessary to do what you want and would be willing to share it.
And if you share your modifications with us, we'll be happy to integrate them in HikaShop for others :)

Rather than working on a solution that almost no one need while there are already alternative solutions, we always prefer to work on other things for which no solutions are available at all, that's all there is to it. I invite you to look our change log and you'll see that we're not resting on our laurels :)

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9 years 10 months ago #188439

With all due respect nicolas I still don't understand why this can't be integrated/part of Hikashop. I guess why I'm confused is because you guys are so good, I mean really good at what you do, so I am assuming it would not be that hard. If another developer can create the addon then they must see the need.

roblux, I found a solution that works great, it's the "Skyline HikaShop Accordion". The developer is very helpful if you have questions so you may want to try that.

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9 years 10 months ago #188453

Hi,

It's the same as if you asked Joomla why they don't integrate a shop directly in Joomla. They are good at what they do too so it wouldn't be that hard right and since other developers can create the addon, they must see the need ;)
Basically, Joomla or HikaShop provides a generic system to be able to setup a website/shop. We encourage 3rd party developers to develop addons for our system as we can't do everything ourselves and also because we cannot put everything possible by default in our system.
Having people making money out of addons of our system encourages them and other developers to develop more addons, which is good for everyone, us, the developers and the users. Undercuting them now that they put the effort of developing the solution would send the wrong signal to the community and I don't believe that it would help the project in the long run.

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9 years 10 months ago #188552

Thanks MyWorld, much appreciated. I ended up using accordionCK www.joomlack.fr/en/joomla-extensions/accordeonmenu-ck and the result is very slick but it has taken a full day of experimenting and customising to get it to play. Still there are some alignment issues I need to tweak and I had to have exchanges with the developer for it to work as described. I will check out the Skyline one in case it goes down to the product level.
The end result is a slick accordion list which opens on rollover and has second line of description for each category so its very good for SEO and user friendly. Can't see how to get it to list products so if I need to do that I'm stuffed.

See it working here.
www.fleurage-natural-perfume.com.au/online-perfume-store

MyWorld, you are right on it. Nichols, please don't get us wrong on this, Hikashop is amazing and you guys are doing great things but an out of the box navigation system is fundamental to selling products ASAP. Setting up a shop is an enormous task, there are hundreds of tasks that come before spending hours searching and selecting a nav. I still have 300 products to shoot, describe and load.

I recently purchased some 3d Software, (Cheetah). Really cool, very fast, very powerful but the developer refuses to use regular units of measure like millimetres or inches, instead it uses an abstract of "units" which you can take to mean anything you like. In theory fine, in practice totally unusable for any application in the real world. And you would be right in guessing that I may have assumed that using a standard unit of measurement was something they would have included without having to list it as a feature. I've had to abandon it. There will be users out there rejecting your software for similar reasons.

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