Thank-you Nicolas -No the joomla recaptcha is not on. I have just tested it again and it appears to be working.. Quite a few hours ago last night (its morning here) I noticed that recaptcha (where I get the keys) said code needs to be put into the header of the template , I thought the plugin would automatically do that, so I looked in the source and it was not there. So I added the google code into the header.
It did not work straight away but its working now a few hours later so it may just have been a cache issue after i added the code.
I will get back if I have any more issues.
The problem with not showing a captcha in the global configuration is still there, and same with user manager. Cant figure that one out!
many thanks
Sandra