Integration with Easysocial

Thats a pity really bcs new EasySocial v 2 is by far the best Joomla profile usage system and HikaShop would get more customers that want exactly these integrations that was described here..if you want I can help you get the new EasySocial from Mark ( lead dev Stackideas)

Rgds

Hi,

As far as I know, no social network site, so far, allows a page owner to have is own mini store. This would bring an extra value to both EasySocial, HikaShop, site and page owners.

Now that EasySocial 2 has pages, each page owner, companies / organizations or individuals would have a way to lunch, promote or sell their products. In terms of ecommerce, it would be like a multistore platform and each page would be a store.

The way I see it, there would be an EasySocial app available to the page owners to install. The app would create a menu only available to the page owner perhaps on the left side page menu to connect them to their store. From there, they would be able to manage their mini store, just like a normal ecommerce site. The products they sell would be, at least, displayed on the owner's page. Everything, from creating and editing products, setting up prices and payment gateways would be available as on a normal HikaShop ecommerce site.

What do you think about this? I am certain a lot of traffic would be generated towards the social network as page owners would want promote their store to all their friends.

Regards

Mário Silva

Hi,

The start would be the profile integration but ....
This topic was started 3 years 2 months ago
I stopped hoping anything between Hikari and Stackideas

Hi Mário Silva

this is really what is needed and its a pity that Hika doesnt understand this very important bit of the puzzle of obvious solutions for e-commerce site owners and listening to potential customers that hold back their investment and go for other solutions bcs of this ignorance.

But there are "networkssites" that allowing this already Mário Silva for business & private persons like Houzz etc www.houzz.com/photos/home-decor just choose what category you want "Shop By Category" and shop..

Its a pity really that a system similar like this could not be done with HikaMultiMarket and EasySocial 2 bcs that would be very great really.

cheers!

Hi ssnobben.

Just checked the Houzz site you mentioned.

What I have in mind is much simpler that an eCommerce site. The store products would appear on the user's page stream with a description, picture, a button to buy and another to "See My Other products". If the "See My Other products" button was pressed, a popup would appear with a list of the products the page seller has for sale. It had to look nice, a rectangle with the pic on the left and Nome / Description on the left, perhaps with the Buy Now button also included.

Well, this is just me describing what I see in my mind's eye...

But the concept of creating mini stores inside a social network, that is the real important thing!

We cannot ask (or maybe yes we can ) for a fully featured integration for a first release of app & integration.

So a first step could be an integration Hikamarket like Quick2Cart does it for ES.
description here : techjoomla.com/products/quick2cart#integrations
demo site here: quick2cartdemo.techjoomla.com/index.php/2014-04-22-14-56-14

Well if developer here not have EasySocial 2.0.6 etc they can ask for it. I have a subscription so I can help them with that if they like.

Well what you describing doesnt exlude the other scenario and I think that both these secenarios should be interlinked/integrated.

Cheers!

ps agree with what you say.

Yes, all scenarios look great to me and they definitely would be interlinked/integrated.

Well hope you guys with support from HikaShop customers and prospects can make it work again with EasySocial and get things going in the right directtion again bcs this would be a win/win situation for both Stackideas and also for Hikashop.

Some discssion at Stackideas to follow too; stackideas.com/forums/e-commerce-easysoc...hikashop-multivendor

Jerome wrote:

pprle wrote: I stopped hoping anything between Hikari and Stackideas

Hi,

Like I said ; I do not know anything about EasySocial but I created a development environment to allow both team to work on a test website and create a nice integration between the two components.
But, the stackideas team never log-on in that website ; so we had a website with the components, a ready and configured HikaShop (and HikaMarket) but it stopped there.

At this moment my position is clear. I do not know the EasySocial component and I won't lost more time to create an integration with a team who do not want that integration.
The only positive point there is that I was able to update the HikaShop user points plugin to integrate with the "EasySocial points" ; it was at least the only part available to me (even if there is no documentation and I had to read the source code to perform that integration).

Regards,

Hello Jerome,

Don't misunderstand me, for me it is a fact, if one day something arises I will be more than happy. In the meantime I stopped hoping

I am aware about this development environment since you launched it.
I know you have been proactive and I was positive hoping finally to see this integration BUT I also know that the Stackideas Team is more busy in their own project development...integrate their components has never been their priority.
Their vision is YOU integrate with us.

About 4 month ago Radek Suski (Sobipro) wrote an article 'Is Joomla dying?"
I would answer Yes, if developers do no work and cooperate more closely.
We are loosing the main interest in Joomla CMS that is the versatility to use different components in one site versus "one website-one purpose"

PS (off topic, but something p****** me off since years):
That is also valid for hikashop/market not being (enough) proactive in the shop front-end!
You guys leave the design to third party template developers and these templates can only be used in the sole purpose of a specifically themed e-commerce website (1 website 1 purpose).
I just hope that with Hikashop 3 we will finally get out of the box a fully responsive, versatile and clean design.

About 4 month ago Radek Suski (Sobipro) wrote an article 'Is Joomla dying?"

www.sigsiu.net/news/1655-is-joomla-dying

"So just to sum up: Joomla! Isn’t dying. As a matter of fact in the recent months I saw a really huge progress in this project and I sincerely do hope we can get all together and get the job done. So instead of spreading fear based on pseudo evidence, please help us to make this project better. There is a way every of us can help and this is in our all interest."

I think its good to discuss and improve Joomla in a positive way but also be realistic about how you measure and describe things...

The real point is stated in the paragraph you copied:
"...I sincerely do hope we can get all together and get the job done."

It is often that subscribers of one components also subscribe to the same other ones.
Some component categories are closely linked to other component categories.
Like easysocial and hikamarket could be...

ssnobben,
you know that Mark and the team are very efficient in their own component support but when you search in their forums you will see he is letting down customers looking for an integration with e.g.: E-Commerce, LMS, Falang, Advertisement, ... Mark always redirects to the same company (TJ not to name it) but (nearly) none SI subscriber trust that company...
... so here we are again
... begging Nicolas and Jerome to integrate Hikamarket with Easysocial

There seems to be a lot of potential support and interest in this integration, but no one is taking the lead to get things rolling. If this integration hasn't happened in 3 years, that tells me that no one has been seriously interested enough to invest the necessary money into hiring a developer to get it done.

Perhaps one of the users who is most excited about this integration should hold a crowd-funding effort to raise funds for development? If enough people really want this integration, they'll donate. Once you have enough funds gathered you'll be able to hire a qualified HikaShop/HikaMarket partner or EasySocial 3rd party developer to work on it.

And if not enough money is raised to pay the upfront development costs through crowdfunding, then you'll have your answer. I believe there is not enough market demand to support it financially as a plugin, certainly not for someone to do development on spec and commit to the ongoing support costs that will be required as HikaMarket and EasySocial change over time. But I'd love to see a crowdfunding campaign prove me wrong.

Hi

I am a little late to the party…
I´ve been a loyal Stackideas customer for years now.
And have been testing the free version of Hika Shop in conjunction with Moodle/Joomdle/Easy Social.
It all works so far and I would love to see deeper integration.
The Stackideas team are the nicest people I have ever meet online.
They are probably insanely busy as always.

I wish I had a suggestion as to how to move forward…

All I can say is that I too am interested in integration and if I can help out with testing etc I am happy to do so!

all the best

Paul

Hello Jerome,

At the start of hikamarket I helped on some topics and can also help with some input here too.
I can also share some Apps (App= EasySocial Application) with you if it can serve as example for your own...

For your information and to better understand what is needed you can have a look at the links I shared some posts above:
There are a description and a demo...

So a first step could be an integration Hikamarket like Quick2Cart does it for ES.
description here : techjoomla.com/products/quick2cart#integrations
demo site here: quick2cartdemo.techjoomla.com/index.php/2014-04-22-14-56-14

Yeah Techjoomla do a whole lot of integration with ES.
I bought a product from them a couple of years ago and for me it was a nightmare.
I suspect that I am alone in this experience.

Also tried Readybytes and Payplan.
Their documentation was all over the places and their forums really slow.
I gave up after having 2 goes at it over the space of 2 years!!!

So far I am really liking Hikashop.
I have the documentation am going through it from cover to cover!!!
In a weird twist of fate I probably have more Hika - ES integration than most!!!

Joomdle has a single login system that syncs with Easy Social via Moodle and also works with Hika Shop.

I started looking at Hika Shop in the first place as I was under the impression that there was a co-operation agreement....
It would be nice to have a “real” alternative that integrates nicely with ES…
I could imagine that there are many other Stackideas users who feel the same.

I really, really really do not want to have to give Quick2Cart a spin

Hope I am not repeating myself

Oh wow, this thread seems to be spamming my mailbox. It's great to see more interest in this and like Jerome mentioned, they did get in touch with us for a while and we did intend to build the app for Hikashop and EasySocial but as we were also occupied with our own development just like Hikashop, it stalled a bit.

Perhaps it would be a good time that we kick start this initiative again Jerome?

I do apologize for the intermittent delays as we were also occupied with EasySocial 2.0 during that time.