Use price per product - how does it work?

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11 years 2 months ago #121525

-- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.0
-- Joomla version -- : 2.5.14

Hi, In Hikashop we are using the Australia Post shipping plugin. The customer wishes to override some automatic postage costs on a per product basis. For example, since the Australia Post plugin/API doesn't support Letter sizes (only Parcels), they want to enter a manual price for shipping a letter based product.

I thought if we turned on "Use price per product" option in the Australia Post plugin, this would enable us to use automatic Australia Post postage for all products except products where we enter a manual shipping cost.
So we have:

  • set "Use price per product" option in the Australia Post plugin
  • edited one of our products and added a shipping price of 2.00

See attached screenshots.

When this product is added to the cart, the shipping price still appears as $6.95?

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11 years 2 months ago #121552

Hi,
1. This option is correctly working for me so you should probably update your Hikashop version (that's probably just a cache issue).
2. Also, the "Use price per product" option will allow you to ADD to the Australia post shipping rates a price per product.
The best solution will probably be to use a manual shipping method for these products, then you'll be able to manually fix the price.

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11 years 2 months ago #121675

Hi Mohamed,

Enabling the manual shipping plugin isn't a solution because (1) you have to add manual shipping prices to all the products otherwise people can add items to their cart for $0 shipping cost if they choose the manual shipping option and (2) you can't 'combine' Australia Post automatic shipping calculations and manual shipping calculations together to get the most accurate price for the customer.

What we need is a solution to allow override of the Australia Post shipping cost for a single product.

For example, a person adds product 'ABC' to their cart. Product ABC has a product shipping rate of $2.00, customised in the 'Shipping Prices' section of the product. The same person also adds Product 'ZXY' to their cart. Product ZXY has no shipping rate override in the product so it uses the normal Australia Post automatic calculations which adds up to $7.00. When this person checks out, their total shipping cost is $2.00 + $7.00 = $9.00

Is this possible?

thanks
Bianca

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11 years 2 months ago #121730

wirthconsulting wrote: For example, a person adds product 'ABC' to their cart. Product ABC has a product shipping rate of $2.00, customised in the 'Shipping Prices' section of the product. The same person also adds Product 'ZXY' to their cart. Product ZXY has no shipping rate override in the product so it uses the normal Australia Post automatic calculations which adds up to $7.00. When this person checks out, their total shipping cost is $2.00 + $7.00 = $9.00

Is this possible?

thanks
Bianca

1. Sure, you'll just have to add a price through shipping price tab of the the "ABC" product page, then this cost will be added to the Australia post shipping rates, if you have an "ABC" product in your cart.
2. Regarding the fact that your shipping cost doesn't update, can you clear your browser cache and try it again ?
Thanks.

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11 years 2 months ago #123182

I may be stupid however this isn't working for us...

1. I installed a clean version of Joomla 2.5.14 and Hikashop 2.2.1 on a test server.
2. I then went into System -> Shipping Methods -> Australia Post. Enabled this plugin. Changed the field 'Use Price Per Product' to Yes. Ticked 'Standard' in the field 'Shipping Services'. Save & Close.
3. Create a test product under Product -> Add a product. Click Save.
4. At this point there is no "Shipping Prices" section on the Product Edit page. All caches - website and browser - have been completely cleared.

On the website where we installed Hikashop 2.2.0 the Shipping Prices section in the product editing page appears.

Have I missed a step in setting up individual product prices using the Australia Post shipping plugin?

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11 years 2 months ago #123202

Ok so can you send me a temporary back end access through a private message for testing purpose ?

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11 years 2 months ago #123212

My bad, only the manual shipping method is compatible with this feature for the moment, so you'll only be able to show this shipping method through your product page.
We already added this issue on our todo list :).

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11 years 2 months ago #123365

OK - is there an approximate timeframe for development e.g. 1 month, 6 months, 1 year? We just need to give the customer a general idea of when it will be available.

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11 years 2 months ago #123389

Hi,

There are two different ways to improve it.
The first improvement should be easy and could be integrated in the next release.
The second one is more complex and will require more modifications in the HikaShop core.

First improvement: list all compatible shipping plugins for the "price per products". At this moment the other plugins like "UPS" will be listed. But it will be only possible to set a generic price per product for UPS, you won't be able to set a price for a UPS sub method.

Second improvement: list all compatible shipping plugins and add a new dropdown to choose a sub method.
At this moment, it will be possible to set a specific price per product for "UPS Ground" and another for "UPS Standard" (for example).

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Jerome - Obsidev.com
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Also helping the HikaShop support team when having some time or couldn't sleep.
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11 years 2 months ago #123636

Hi Jerome,

Sorry I don't understand what you mean about these "different ways to improve it". From my perspective we just want to know when the requirements mentioned previously will be available for just the Australia Post plugin (not manual shipping)?

QUOTE:
"For example, a person adds product 'ABC' to their cart. Product ABC has a product shipping rate of $2.00, customised in the 'Shipping Prices' section of the product. The same person also adds Product 'ZXY' to their cart. Product ZXY has no shipping rate override in the product so it uses the normal Australia Post automatic calculations which adds up to $7.00. When this person checks out, their total shipping cost is $2.00 + $7.00 = $9.00"

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11 years 2 months ago #123650

Hi,

In your case I think that the first improvement of the plugin will be enough.
About delay, I can't tell you precisely. I create a ticket for it.

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9 years 5 months ago #205825

Hello,

I am wondering if there has been an update regarding price per product with the Australia Post plugin.
We have a client who, similar to wirthconsulting, wiishes to use Australia Post for shipping, with a few products having free shipping or a set shipping price.
It appears that if you use price per shipping with the Australia Post plugin the amounts set for shipping in the product add to the shipping cost still.
I have set up 2 warehouses as a workaround, one for using the Australia Post API to calculate shipping costs, the other for product with set shipping costs using the Manual shipping plugin. This works for some combinations of the products, but the client also wants to have free shipping on orders over $150. I have set up the plugins to Maximum price:AUD $149.99 and have another manual shipping plugin set with minimum price $150, however it only works if the products are in the same warehouse, not on the order total.


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9 years 5 months ago #205925

Hi,

I indeed don't see a solution with the current system to support at the same time free shipping for a specific total amount and automatic rates for some products and flat rates for others below that specific total amount.

What you describes is the closest.

One solution I can see is to combine that with AWO Coupon which allows you to have auto loaded coupons based on a minimum total amount and have the coupon act on the shipping fee:
awodev.com/documentation/awocoupon-pro
I would recommend to confirm that with the developer, but if that's the case, it would be that you could handle the free shipping over $150 with AWOCoupon and the rest with what you already described in HikaShop.

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9 years 5 months ago #206118

Thank you Nicholas.

AwoCoupon Pro has worked very nicely to solve this scenario.

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