Adding an image I've preloaded to the site

Hi Guys,
I've just bought your product and quite enjoying building my site. I do have a question however, I've pre-loaded a number of images to the site and added products via CSV upload - so far so good. There were a few items where I didn't put in the correct image name for it to link correctly so need to do them manually.
When I go into the product and try to link the product to the image already loaded into the site it doesn't give me that option. It only allows me to look on my local drive as if I'm loading the image for the first time.
Is there any way to access the folder on the site and link the product to the image that way?
Cheers,
John

Hi,

Actually it's not possible, it will be in the next release I think.

You can add it if you have some PHP knowledge, the view to edit is "product / selectimage" in HikaShop > Display > Views (backend template), and see how it's working in the view "product / selectfile".

Hi guys,

Well... I've just bought the full package of Hikashop, and I'm pretty pleased about its simplicity and efficiency.

But, there's a but....

Regarding that topic, I am puzzled that this is not possible to use the pictures already on the server, and via the editor selected as default in the Joomla configuration. It is even embarrassing for me to explain to my clients that they have to upload again all the images they have already on the server, and on top of that that it is via a prehistoric menu.

I mean: I have installed for them the marvelous JCK editor. So, for all their other pictures needs, they can drag and drop files from desktop to their 'Images' folder! They can navigate through their pictures and folders in a wysiwyg environement via the JCK File Explorer! AND they can resize and edite completely their pictures via 'Pixlr', also included in the JCK Editor suite, through the JCK Editor. From wherever in their Joomla articles / modules, this is the modern way that they can reach and manage their pictures / files.

I truely got a 'cold rain' pouring on me (as we say here), since I realized that I now have to.. explain them that this will be completely different and with zero flexibility in their Shop...
This morning, I am even considering to change to VM despite the fact that I spent 119 Euro on Hikashop... I can't ask that to my customers... It is not doing any kind of menace here... It is just that what sounds a small part of Hikashop is actually one very important thing for people in charge of the shops! Pictures are everything on a shop. Good ones, with the right size, the right weight, the proper focus make a whole difference. Current Hikashop workflow regarding the main product image is absolutely prehistoric while this main picture of the product is key for the various product displays solutions offered in the system.

With the feature described above (getting the Joomla Editor handling the injection of the product picture) people -especially if they use JCK, but not only) will be able to have a modern and time saving process (in many ways: from time to upload to image renaming, resizing, re-croping...).

Please... Let me now that this major feature (even if it doesn't look like it at first sight) for those who are managing their store will be available VERY very soon... And that then the default Joomla editor will take over the picture / files management in Hikashop too, in order to avoid crazy manipulations (and extra space used for nothing, which always ends to be a problem especially when there's regular backups).

Mmmm... I didn't want to be that long. Sorry for that.
Looking for good news on that metter very soon,

Best to all,
D

Hi,

In HikaShop, you can use the JCK editor for the product description and use it to add the pictures in the description.

We are already working on a new interface for the pictures. It will be available in HikaMarket (which allow you to edit your products in frontend), new features like drag&drop - gallery to see the already uploaded pictures - etc, will be present.

Hi,

And thanks you for quick feedback.



I of course know / noticed that I can use JCK Editor in the Product Description.

But that's really not the point.

As you know, in HikaShop, the most important picture of the product is the one that you select aside from the description, through the pre-mentioned prehistoric workflow (and that is true for Category pictures too, etc...). Being the most viewed, you want this picture to be the good one. You want to be able to try several ones quickly. You want to be able to access it and edit it easily eventually.

What my customers, I, and probably all other users of Hikashop need is to be able to place ALL pictures used in Hikashop in the default folder 'images' of Joomla (in a subfolder named 'Hikashop pictures' for instance), and handle them via the default Joomla Editor. This is the standard workflow of Joomla, by the way, and I see really no reasons to do otherwise. Again, the current solution in Hikashop makes all the pictures so complex and old-fashioned...

So, just to be sure: you are working on something like that for the HikaMarket. But this will also be implemented for the main Hikashop, right? Is it gonna let us put the pictures in the default 'Images' folder of Joomla?

I would really don't get why such an important improvement for your users wouldn't be something you consider quickly. Especially as this would probably require quite small efforts on you side (mostly rerouting things, nothing to really code from scratch i guess).

Hikashop is known 1) for simplicity and 2) to be specific to Joomla use...
Let's get even closer to the standard Joomla process that the users are used to!

I hope you understand me and this concern,
And I really pray to get this feature soon... I like your work very much, but for me and for my customers, this is really a no go...

Could you give me an estimated time for this?
Or just simply let me know that this is out of question?

Again, we're speaking of the way to handle all 'ID pictures' of each product created by all the users of Hikashop...
Something of importance...

Many thanks in advance for your understanding and your feedbacks.

Best regards to all,

D

Hi,

We don't have many feedback about this. So I think that the other users do it by another way.

I understand what you need, and it will certainly be in the next release. But we don't use the Joomla default editor for that, because we are making many things on images.
When you import the image, we have to add the watermark if you set one, we have to generate the thumbnails, etc.

About using the Joomla folder, I will talk about that to Nicolas. But actually I don't really see why it's so important.
We are implementing it in HikaMarket and it will be too in HikaShop.

An estimated time, I don't really know because we have already a lot of things to develop for HikaShop.
Maybe on January.

Hi Xavier,

An important subject, that deserves a quite long post...

I understand that your system might be in the need of processing several operations on pictures: place watermark indeed, but also badges I guess... etc.
However, I don't think this is done during the upload itself, which is a separate (and preliminary) operation. The various needed operations are most probably done after that the picture is available on the server.

So I guess that your system first stores the original picture, and then, on the need, generates several new others (one with watermarks... etc). Those 'child' images from the original one are probably stored in a separated folder (aside of the original picture may be).

This drives me to the following remarks:

1) I think that for your system it doesn't really matter from where the picture comes when selecting a new image in Hikashop to replace the picture ID of the product: the system will anyway store it in a place where it will be able to process those operations anyway.

2) To answer your question (sic: why this is important) and explain my point further: if a user can select product ID pictures from his Joomla standard 'Images' folder, he doesn't have to go out of the standard Joomla pictures flow. This has several major positives consequences:
- all images already posted on the server are instantly available when creating products
- he is 100% familiar with the upload process if he needs to upload new ones
- he can use his online picture editor (if he is using Pixlr for instance) on-the-fly to change / adapt his images. Something you can't leave behind if you have started to use it; it saves an enormous amount of time (it drastically reduces time needed to do trials). Thus, making trials, adapting the picture, finding the ideal one is way, way easier & faster like that.

3) So in the end, the most important thing is that the user can select images from the standard Joomla 'Images' folder. The previous operation can be done in a separated browser window, at the same time. Of course, if your system finally use the same picture file explorer than Joomla (for instance if JCK is used, the JCK Explorer) then it could be even simpler: the user could adapt the picture prior to inject it in Hikashop (like what happens when selecting a picture when in an article). But that would be the cherry on the cake.

All, in all I've been a bit reassure by your last message... I really hope that using the normal Joomla folder images (at least for selecting images) will be a feature available soon, at the latest in January then... I just spent some time to explain to my first Hikashop user that this un-friendly way of selecting product image ID will be changed in January... I'm really counting on you on this.

I will post a very positive remark on Joomla.org as soon as I have been reliefed on this.

I just purchased the Hikashop 'styles', investing more on you guys, following your last comment post.
I hope I will not be disappointed, and that Hikashop will keep on getting better and easier release after release.

Keep up the good work,
and the needed improvements,

Many thanks,
Best,

D.


PS: if in the end you also choose to store your Hikashop image folder (with all the different picture versions created by your system) in the Joomla 'Images' folder, I don't think it would be a problem... Just name it in a way that makes people understand what is is, and they will not touch it... But that is not the most important thing. Be able to select image from the online standard Joomla 'Images' folder is the biggy. Thxs.