Tax/VAT Configuration

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11 years 4 months ago #120200

I am in the final stages of designing a site and on the site there are some product packages. These contain some products such as books which a not subject to VAT/Tax while other products are.

Would appreciate a suggestion on how this can be implemented so tax is only charged on the relevant products rather than the whole package price.

So pack costs £50 but only £10 is subject to VAT. Currently VAT is charged on the whole amount where in fact it only needs to be charged on the £10

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11 years 4 months ago #120213

Hi Dave,
I think that you'll just have to set the "Product tax category" option of the products that you don't want to be taxed to None.

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11 years 4 months ago #120257

Hi Mohamed

thanks for the reply. The packs are pre-assembled with certain items, so for instance the Multi Faith collection is priced at £50. The pack contains books, and other items. The books are zero rated while the other items would be subject to VAT. The VAT is currently calculated on the whole £50. Essentially there needs to be a breakdown with all items listed and priced, almost like a product option but without adding to the overall price..

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11 years 4 months ago #120278

You would have to create a new tax rate with a new tax category and a new tax rule on them so that you could use that tax category in that package product so that the rate correspond to a multiplication of the percentage of the taxed products on the total price of the package times the normal tax rate.

In your example, if your tax rate is 20%, your new tax rate would be 4%.

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11 years 4 months ago #120319

Thanks for the reply Nicolas. I did wonder if it was possible to create some kind variant using a custom field with a price that would be used as part of a calculation. So the product would show a list of the items included which are then calculated as part of the pricing structure.

So the pack would be £50 then the other items that make up the pack would be listed almost like product options I suppose that are fixed.

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11 years 4 months ago #120343

Sure, that's possible with a custom product field where you would enter the list of the products of the package and then a custom quantity price override plugin which would recalculate the price (and the tax) of the product in the cart:
www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/6...tation.html#override

If you look at the donation plugin that is installed by default, it uses that method to take the value you enter in a custom item field as the price of the product:
demo.hikashop.com/index.php?option=com_h...ct&task=show&cid=214

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11 years 3 months ago #121355

Apologies for the delay in replying, been working on other areas of the site.

I don't fully understand what is required I'm afraid :blush:

What type of custom field would I need to create please?

Reference was made about using percentages and tax rates but would that then mean there is more than one tax rate visible at checkout?

Would really appreciate a bit of additional input

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11 years 3 months ago #121360

You need to create a custom field of the table "product". You could make it a multi dropdown with a list of the id of all the products you want to use in your packages in it for example. That would then allow you in the plugin to get that list of product for the package product and recalculate the product price based on the selected products for the package product.
You can redefine yourself the price and the taxes for the package product with the plugin. And system the system supports multi-taxed prices, if that's what you need, you can do it.

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11 years 3 months ago #121422

Nicolas

thanks for the reply. There is only one tax rate of 20% and the other is 0% which usually applies to magazines, books etc. The client is going to sort out the products which can then be added to the drop down as you suggest. The drop down itslfl doesn't really need to be visable as such to the end user.

I will look at this and raise any further questions should the need arise.

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10 years 11 months ago #138318

This post is now quite old so I could start a new one if that is the better option.

I am struggling to understand how to implement the solution suggested.

I would really appreciate some examples of how the values are entered in the dropdown?

To clarify the situation it is as follows:

The product packs are made up of taxable and non taxable products. In most cases the taxable product is a storage box and that is all.

On one though there are 3 additional items.

Product options would allow them to be added but this needs to be by default and non changeable by the customer or as fixed characteristics maybe? Basically they items need to show on the invoice and be part of the tax calculations. I suppose another way to look at it is as this pack includes with the items priced.

I did look at the check box option too and wondered if this could be set as a custom field and as selected by default but not to appear on the front end, just as part of the calculation that would show on the invoice etc

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10 years 11 months ago #138440

A quick and dirty solution would be to use options and set the default value of its characteristic to what you want and then add a CSS line to hide the options of the product on the product page. The price would still include the options and the taxes would be calculated for each option based on the tax category of the option and them summed together.

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10 years 11 months ago #138702

Nicolas

thanks for the reply.

I managed to get this working. On a particular product. The product price is £26.55 for instance but with the addtion of the option it is now £41. Is there a way for the product price to display as £41 rather than £26.55?

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10 years 11 months ago #138709

My last post is probably not a workable!! :oops:

I have also run into another issue that the end user can remove the product option from the cart. I can turn off the delete button at checkout although they can still type 0.

So it looks like I am still stuck at the moment.

Also I have just tried to access the documentation and I am getting page not found errors

www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/3...axation-listing.html

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10 years 11 months ago #138721

It probably means that you turned off the option "group options with product" of the configuration. Because when that option is turned on, the options are grouped with the products in the checkout and you can't remove one without the other.

Regarding the price display, you should actually see both prices on the product page. For the listing though, I don't have an easy solution. The best I can propose is to remove the price display from the listing_img_title view file and instead display a custom product field where you would enter the sum of the options and product price when available.

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10 years 11 months ago #138732

Hi Nicolas

yes I had turned group options off :whistle:

Thanks very much for your input.

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